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Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ

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Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ

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2021-05-24T16:58:54Z

Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ

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 : As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.
-: Here's an image of the model I'm getting:
+: Here's some images of the one I bought:
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+[[File:WolfPup-side.jpg|400px]]
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-: The decision is made! I'm getting the 16FQ with a Murphy Bed, but not the Black Label edition. The primary difference is that the one I'm getting has aluminum siding instead of fiberglass, otherwise aside from a few trivial things they are the same.
+: The decision is made! I'm getting the 16FQ with a Murphy Bed, but not the Black Label edition. The primary difference is that the one I'm getting has aluminum siding instead of fiberglass, otherwise aside from a few other trivial things they are the same.
 : As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.

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	: As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.		: As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.
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		+	: Here's an image of the model I'm getting:
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 : The decision is made! I'm getting the 16FQ with a Murphy Bed, but not the Black Label edition. The primary difference is that the one I'm getting has aluminum siding instead of fiberglass, otherwise aside from a few trivial things they are the same.
-: As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https:www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.
+: As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.
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	: The decision is made! I'm getting the 16FQ with a Murphy Bed, but not the Black Label edition. The primary difference is that the one I'm getting has aluminum siding instead of fiberglass, otherwise aside from a few trivial things they are the same.		: The decision is made! I'm getting the 16FQ with a Murphy Bed, but not the Black Label edition. The primary difference is that the one I'm getting has aluminum siding instead of fiberglass, otherwise aside from a few trivial things they are the same.
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		+	: As well as the included 50W solar panel, I've ordered a [https:www.amazon.com/dp/B08MZJW9Y5/ Bluetti AP200P solar power station] and two 100W solar panels, so I ought to be able to drycamp without sacrificing too many creature comforts.

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	===[https://www.sanantoniorvs.com/product/new-2021-forest-river-rv-cherokee-wolf-pup-black-label-16fqbl-1433608-29 Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ]===		===[https://www.sanantoniorvs.com/product/new-2021-forest-river-rv-cherokee-wolf-pup-black-label-16fqbl-1433608-29 Forest River Cherokee Wolf Pup 16FQ]===
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		+	: The decision is made! I'm getting the 16FQ with a Murphy Bed, but not the Black Label edition. The primary difference is that the one I'm getting has aluminum siding instead of fiberglass, otherwise aside from a few trivial things they are the same.
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	: The "regular" Wolf Pup is the same price as the Sportsmen Classic 160QB and almost the same configuration, but has a Murphy bed. The model I like better is this "Black Label" version which is a bit more, although I'm not thrilled with the black & tan decor, but I could live with it. It has more of the bells and whistles I "need", and I really do prefer the fiberglass shell over the aluminum siding.		: The "regular" Wolf Pup is the same price as the Sportsmen Classic 160QB and almost the same configuration, but has a Murphy bed. The model I like better is this "Black Label" version which is a bit more, although I'm not thrilled with the black & tan decor, but I could live with it. It has more of the bells and whistles I "need", and I really do prefer the fiberglass shell over the aluminum siding.

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 [[File:WolfPup16FQBL.jpg]]
-: The one the salesman showed me is actually the 16FQBL (Black Label) now shown in the link, which has a few extra features and is a couple of $K more than the plain old 16FQ. Perhaps the most significant difference is the fiberglass exterior, vs aluminum. It does come with a 50W solar panel, which is hardly enough to sneeze at, but at least would mean that the rig is prewired for solar, so more panels might be added, along with more batteries, etc. I'd add at least 150W more to be practical for drydocking, and preferably up to 400W. It does not have a port for a portable solar panel, unfortunately (unless it's on the roof, which would be pretty useless for me), but it's possible that one could be added by the dealer. Portable panels are not all that expensive, but having the controller & batteries to match could be. With 400W, I could run the a/c and microwave as well as the 12V refrigerator. It does have a good-sized (10.7 cu ft) refrigerator with separate freezer, but instead of 110/12v/propane switchable power like many have, it is 12 volt only. I don't know how much of a limitation that would be, but does make me more interested in increasing the solar power system. As for the dark cabinets, they can be painted. They are solid wood, not laminate or anything like that, so doing that would not be too complicated. I also had the idea of hanging a curtain behind the sofa to hide the Murphy bed and add a bit of color that way. Also preinstalled is a backup camera that comes with a wireless monitor for the towing vehicle.
+: The one the salesman showed me is actually the 16FQBL (Black Label) now shown in the link, which has a few extra features and is a couple of $K more than the plain old 16FQ. Perhaps the most significant difference is the fiberglass exterior, vs aluminum. It does come with a 50W solar panel, which is hardly enough to sneeze at, but at least would mean that the rig is prewired for solar, so more panels might be added, along with more batteries, etc. I'd add at least 150W more to be practical for drydocking, and preferably up to 400W. It does not have a port for a portable solar panel, unfortunately (unless it's on the roof, which would be pretty useless for me), but it's possible that one could be added by the dealer. Portable panels are not all that expensive, but having the controller & batteries to match could be. With 400W, enough batteries, and an appropriate inverter, I could run the a/c and microwave as well as the 12V refrigerator. It does have a good-sized (10.7 cu ft) refrigerator with separate freezer, but instead of 110/12v/propane switchable power like many have, it is 110 volt only. I don't know how much of a limitation that would be, but does make me more interested in increasing the solar power system. As for the dark cabinets, they can be painted or enhanced with removable wallpaper. They are solid wood, not laminate or anything like that, so doing that would not be too complicated. I also had the idea of hanging a curtain or tapestry behind the sofa to hide the Murphy bed and add a bit of color that way. Also preinstalled is a backup camera that comes with a wireless monitor for the towing vehicle.
 : Revisiting it on the lot (after doing more research), I see it comes with [https://kingconnect.com/king-falcon-directional-wi-fi-antenna-bundle/ a directional WiFi antenna] already installed, which saves a couple hundred $ over adding it post-purchase. I couldn't tell if it also includes [https://kingconnect.com/king-wifimax-router-range-extender/ the signal booster], but if not that's an add-on I can get later. Before I get on the road I need to review my cellphone plan to find one that has unlimited data. The WiFi antenna doesn't help with a weak cellphone signal, but King does make a device for that, too, of course.

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 : 19'9", on Dodge V6 (gas) chassis. Pop-up camper sleeps 4. Murphy+twin bed in rear & loft bunk. No oven, but 2-burner glass-top range, under-counter refrigerator. Wet bath with cassette toilet, but no sink. Showerhead on handheld wand. Small cabinet to keep toilet paper dry, nice touch. Cassette is removed from outside to empty, and includes handle & wheels in case needs to be moved.  Brackets built in to walls to convert to shelving. 220w solar panel & controller. Outside shower. Connection for additional solar panel. Inverter not included, but optional. No generator. 12v compressor refrigerator faces front next to patio door. Eco-hot tankless water heater. Considered a 4-season camper since all waterlines are inside. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQIvtx0rMgY YouTube video tour] from [https://www.beckleysrvs.com/ Beckly's Camping Center].  No A/C??? That's a show-stopper in Texas. There's a/c on the dashboard, but not in the living area.  Also, no LiIon batteries. Too much cost-cutting for me.
-==Erwin Hymer Group North America==
+===Erwin Hymer Group North America===
 * Builds Carado RVs
 * Also parent company of RoadTrek, apparently
-===[https://caradorv.com Carado RV]===
+====[https://caradorv.com Carado RV]====
-====[https://www.fretzrv.com/product/new-2019-ehgna-carado-banff-926685-13 Carado Banff]====
+=====[https://www.fretzrv.com/product/new-2019-ehgna-carado-banff-926685-13 Carado Banff]=====
 : Built on Dodge RAM chassis, 19'6". Convertible dual twins or king-sized bed. Rear wet-dry bath. A/C. Optional 200w solar panels & 400w LiIon batteries, etc. Optional generator. 2-burner propane stovetop, 3.1 cu ft refrigerator, 700w microwave. 6-gal. propane water heater.  Used 2018 model $70K at Beckley's Camping Center in Thurmont, MD.
-====[https://assets-cdn-interactrv.netdna-ssl.com/interactrv/brand_brochure/brand_brochure_201901070446337058358475.pdf?modified=0107201916463370 Carado Axion]====
+=====[https://assets-cdn-interactrv.netdna-ssl.com/interactrv/brand_brochure/brand_brochure_201901070446337058358475.pdf?modified=0107201916463370 Carado Axion]=====
 : 17'9", on gas Dodge RAM V6 chassis. Convertible couch makes up into single or double bed (double takes up entire width of coach next to galley). Front pop-up table for swivel driver/passenger seats & couch. Rear wetbath w/ drop-down sink. Microwave, 2-burner LPG stovetop, 3.1 cu ft refrigerator. 200w solar panels, LiIon batteries, inverter. A/C & furnace.

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 =RV Categories=
-: RVs are defined by broad categories:
+: RVs are defined by broad categories. The first three classes include a vehicle as well as living & storage space, and are more expensive and possibly less flexible as a result.
 # Class A
-** Self-contained motorhomes or motor coaches built on a truck or van chassis
+#* Self-contained motorhomes or motor coaches built on a truck chassis. Generally larger than Class Bs.
 # Class B
-** Self-contained small motorhomes, usually built on a van chassis, with cab integrated into the body of the coach
+#* Self-contained small motorhomes, usually built on a van chassis, with the cab integrated into the body of the coach
 # Class C
-** Self-contained small motorhomes, built on the back of a truck chassis, with separate cab
+#* Self-contained small motorhomes, built on the back of a truck chassis, with separate cab
 # Travel Trailer
-** Towable, separate self-contained or partially self-contained mobile home, usually with independent power & water
+#* Towable, separate self-contained or partially self-contained mobile home, usually with independent power & water
 # Toy-hauler
-** An RV with some provision (hatch, ramp, etc.) for carrying gear inside them, such as motorcycles, bikes or ATVs, sometimes also including living quarters
+#* An RV with some provision (hatch, ramp, etc.) for carrying gear inside them, such as motorcycles, bikes or ATVs, sometimes also including living quarters
 ==Class A RVs==